Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Post by Kapit » April 19th, 2017, 2:29 pm

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Michael Giacchino's scores for the Star Trek movies really didn't do much for me and when I first read that he was to be the composer for R1, I wasn't too excited, but I must say that Giacchino's piece for the most emotional scene in the movie really is beautiful and effective, like most of his score for the movie.
Considering he wrote it all in the a month, he did a fantastic job.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Post by thepepgal » April 20th, 2017, 1:29 pm

I've watched all the extras and was underwhelmed by them. The intros to the characters didn't tell me anything that watching the movies several times hadn't already. The others were dull. I was expecting the deaths of the Rogue One team prior to seeing the movie and yet the extras told me it was meant to shock the fans. Maybe LFL forgot that none of Rogue One appear in ANH and Leia had the plans transmitted to her which had always made me believe in the worst for R1 team.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Post by Lord Tesla » April 21st, 2017, 12:56 pm

I took a look at a few spots in the film yesterday, probably a good twenty minutes of it. A few observations:

1) it was not as bad as I thought it was initially. It still wasn't good, and, since I was buzzing past the boring spots, that may have had a significant effect on my perception. That said,

2) The Jyn Erso/Galen Erso story is as flat as a Euclidean plane. It does not work.

3) The effects look bad. Was this film made on the cheap? That would explain it. I am not talking about robo-Tarkin and robo-Leia here, either. I'm talking about the ships, the Death Star--they all look more like plastic model kits than the plastic model kits used in ANH did, while at the same time seeming less substantial than most CGI spacecraft in cinema.

4) There is a serious wardrobe inconsistency regarding Director Neckcrink's cape: the cape he wears confronting Erso and his engineering cohorts on Mudhole V (or whichever one of the murky locales from the film that was) is not the same cape he wears in the rest of the film. What, he has a special, go-to-confrontations-with-traitors cape? (Also, it still looks like it was made from a bedsheet.)
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Post by Kapit » April 21st, 2017, 1:27 pm

Lord Tesla wrote:
April 21st, 2017, 12:56 pm
What, he has a special, go-to-confrontations-with-traitors cape? (Also, it still looks like it was made from a bedsheet.)

Actually, yes. :laugh:

Although it's for bad weather as opposed to traitor confrontation.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Post by Master Magnus » April 21st, 2017, 3:32 pm

thepepgal wrote:
April 20th, 2017, 1:29 pm
I've watched all the extras and was underwhelmed by them. The intros to the characters didn't tell me anything that watching the movies several times hadn't already. The others were dull.
Yes, the extras were poor and frankly disappointing.
thepepgal wrote: I was expecting the deaths of the Rogue One team prior to seeing the movie and yet the extras told me it was meant to shock the fans. Maybe LFL forgot that none of Rogue One appear in ANH and Leia had the plans transmitted to her which had always made me believe in the worst for R1 team.
I certainly wasn't expecting it and there are many reasons as to why they wouldn't have had shown up in ANH. When I first watched the movie in theater, I had an inkling that some would die, but it wasn't until K-2SO "died" that I really began to understand where it was heading. I was actually surprised that Disney allowed some of the creative choices.
Lord Tesla wrote:buzzing past the boring spots
Hmm... I wasn't aware that there were 'boring spots' in this remarkable Star Wars movie! :)

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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Post by Lord Tesla » April 22nd, 2017, 3:31 am

Kapit wrote:
April 21st, 2017, 1:27 pm
Lord Tesla wrote:
April 21st, 2017, 12:56 pm
What, he has a special, go-to-confrontations-with-traitors cape? (Also, it still looks like it was made from a bedsheet.)

Actually, yes. :laugh:

Although it's for bad weather as opposed to traitor confrontation.
Seriously?
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Post by Lord Tesla » April 22nd, 2017, 3:48 am

Master Magnus wrote:
April 21st, 2017, 3:32 pm
Lord Tesla wrote:buzzing past the boring spots
Hmm... I wasn't aware that there were 'boring spots' in this remarkable Star Wars movie! :)
Oh, yes, they're there. Allow me to give you some telltales that you can watch for: Any time you see Jyn Erso; anytime you hear the phrase, "I am one with the Force and the Force is with me"; any frame you see that falls before time index 20:00 (rough approximation); any time you hear Jyn Erso. Boring. All boring. And that is not an exhaustive list.

And there's another thing that bugs me: Why does the Imperial Archive, or whatever the hell that thing was on Club Imp, have an open-air terminal for data uploads? With a very exposed and precarious "antenna orientation" control station, no less? That's just...stupid. Ditto for the whole hard drive jukebox arrangement. So much wasted energy and complexity, to say nothing of inefficiency, in a big, mechanical storage system for electronic records. It might make sense if it were some long lost cache of ancient data, or a collection of legacy devices, but not for the latest and greatest design from Muppet--er, Imperial Labs, making bigger bangs for more tyrannical tomorrows. Nope. Doesn't fly.

But I still like the robot.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Post by Kapit » April 24th, 2017, 9:53 am

Lord Tesla wrote:
April 22nd, 2017, 3:31 am
Seriously?
Pretty sure, yeah. I forget where I read it but it's supposed to be like a poncho as opposed to cape.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Post by Lord Tesla » April 25th, 2017, 10:47 am

Kapit wrote:
April 24th, 2017, 9:53 am
Lord Tesla wrote:
April 22nd, 2017, 3:31 am
Seriously?
Pretty sure, yeah. I forget where I read it but it's supposed to be like a poncho as opposed to cape.
Fascinating. I'm going to have to do a little digging on this. That thing just looked like a frillier version of the cape in all the other scenes, not very effective as a poncho.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Post by toVor » April 25th, 2017, 5:40 pm

I like the score though it was lacking in some areas. Especially the title scene. When "Rogue One" appeared on the screen the music was too similar IMO to some of the music in cheesy low budget 80's sci-fi like Adventures in the Forbidden Zone. However, the rest of the music was quite good, however lacking in other areas. But after getting past the "This doesn't sound like John Williams-Star Wars" and accepting the music for what it was, a side story, I quite liked a lot of it, especially the way he mixed in some of Williams' traditional SW themes into parts of the new score.

I liked the alien sound of the Jedha music. When you are firsdt introduced to Jedha, when you first encounter Saw's rebels meeting the defector, when you first glimpse the kyber temple under the hovering Star Destroyer as the newly arrived Jinn and Cassian begin to observe it, I caught a very familiar sound in my ears and memory. I could be wrong in my memory, and I don'[t have the old music playing now in order to compare it, but that music in those scenes was so familiar. Maybe it was coincidental, maybe it was an intended homage, or maybe I'm incorrect. But either way it heavily reminded me of some of the music in the the original 1968 Planet of the Apes--particularly the music during scenes of the Forbidden Zone and the first sights of the gorilla hunting party pursuing the humans. Does anyone have or remember that music to confirm or debunk my hazy memory of it?
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